Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought is pressed on the Trump administration’s proposal to cut non-defense spending by more than 22% — including deep reductions to education, food assistance, and billions in cancer research funding.

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Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought discussed the Trump administration’s proposal to reduce non-defense spending by over 22%, which includes significant cuts to education, food assistance, and cancer research funding. Vought stated that the administration seeks to address what it views as inefficiencies within the National Institutes of Health (NIH), aiming to limit indirect costs and redirect funds toward core research activities. 

Despite the proposed reductions, Vought emphasized that the budget would still allocate $28 billion to the NIH, with a focus on ensuring that federal funding is used for essential research rather than administrative expenses. He also highlighted the administration's intention to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse in federal grants, referencing concerns about spending on indirect costs by universities and research institutions.

Trump’s budget director discusses proposed cuts to cancer research

I do want to start with what you submitted late Friday night. It's some of the administration's spending proposals for the coming fiscal year. It would cut non-defense spending by more than 22 percent, slash anti-poverty programs, education grants, food and rental assistance, even billions in funding for cancer research. Let's just start with that last one. Explain why the administration wants to cut so much from cancer research. Well, it's more about the NIH, and the NIH has been a bureaucracy that we believe has been weaponized against the American people. We saw that in COVID, the extent to which it doesn't even know or is willing to grapple with the extent to which it funded the Wuhan Institute through the EcoHealth Alliance, and the fact that they pay far more than even Bill Gates does for indirect costs at all the bureaucracy. So, this is something that is vitally important to be able to get a handle on, and we're still going to give $28 billion to the NIH. Well, the American Cancer Society Action Network says for the past 50 years, every significant medical breakthrough, especially in the treatment of cancer, has been linked to successful, robust federal investment. Is that philosophically something that you agree with? We believe that we need a strong NIH. We think it's important to have cancer research. We still do that under the president's budget that he put up two or three weeks ago. Not last night. Last night, Friday night, was the technical details. But as it pertains to the NIH, we actually want it to go to cancer research. We want it to go to the research that people think that they have been funding through their tax dollars. We don't want it to go to what we saw in the pandemic when they're giving money to the EcoHealth Alliance, and we don't want it to go to waste, fraud, and abuse by allowing universities to charge far more than they would ever get from Bill Gates' foundation for things like office buildings, parking lots. It's called an indirect cost rate. Right now, we're saying it needs to be 15%. Bill Gates says it's 10%. It's somewhere in the neighborhood of 30% or 40% right now. It's far in excess of what the private sector would expect. I want to move on, but people who do this cancer research argue that the federal government funding those building blocks, even the office buildings, allows them to spend money on the actual life-saving research. We understand that the recipients of federal dollars always want more than what the federal government may be willing to do, but we think it's important to look at the private sector and also get rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse.

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