Steve Hilton and Nile Gardiner join Finnerty to discuss the support in London for Charlie Kirk following his assassination.

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A significant protest took place in London, reportedly drawing up to a million participants, reflecting widespread frustration over immigration policies and the perceived lack of change since the Brexit vote. Commentators Steve Hilton and Niall Gardner linked the protest to long-standing concerns about border control and dissatisfaction with the current government, noting that immigration has increased despite earlier promises to reduce it.

The discussion also touched on the political future of the UK, with speculation about a potential shift towards right-wing leadership and references to figures such as Nigel Farage. The conversation drew parallels between the UK and US political climates, emphasizing concerns about government effectiveness and the handling of immigration issues.

London shows support for Charlie Kirk

Joining us now for more is Steve Hilton, candidate for governor in the state of California, but originally from London, and director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom in London, Niall Gardner. Gentlemen, great to have you both on. Steve, we've never seen anything like what we witnessed this weekend in London. I saw one report that put the number at a million people taking part in this protest. Take people here through what is really going on over there. So I think the rage that you're seeing and the scale of the rage goes back at least nine years, because it was nine years ago, Niall and I were both part of that, that Brexit passed. Brexit, above all, there were lots of reasons that people voted for Brexit, but the number one reason was that people were fed up with uncontrolled immigration and they were sending a message that we want to leave the EU so that we can control our borders. It was pretty much the main message in the Brexit campaign. What's happened since then? Absolutely nothing. The situation has actually got worse. Immigration has gone up, the opposite of what they voted for. And the shameful thing is that that happened under a conservative government most of the time. And so people are sitting there thinking, what do we have to do, right? We vote for this and we get the opposite result. And I think that explains it. And then you see the clamp down on free speech. Together with that, it is incredibly potent. And I have to say, a very powerful reminder to me here as a new and proud American that what I'm fighting for here in America is to make sure that the country I love does not turn into the country I left. Yeah, good point. Niall, I just want to play you Charlie Kirk. Again, he was part of what was taking place on Saturday and Sunday in London. Take a look. Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. All right, so the big question, Niall, what happens next? Well, that's a great question. I think Steve is absolutely right. I mean, there's a real sense of anger in the United Kingdom with regard to the betrayal of the British people with large-scale mass migration. What happens next? Unfortunately, we have potentially four more years of the most far-left government in British history. I mean, Keir Starmer is an absolute disaster. And hopefully, at the end of the next four years, the socialists will be thrown out of power and you'll have a party on the right, most likely, I would have thought, a combination of reform and the Conservatives working together. Nigel Farage is the clear front runner to be the next prime minister. I think the British people really have had enough of mass migration. They've had enough of open borders. They've had enough of surging crime. They've had enough of the woke far-left ideology that is really sitting on top of them in the UK. And just as the American people really cast off the shackles of socialist-style rule in America, I think the British people will do exactly the same. And I think we are going to see a political revolution in the United Kingdom where the British people really take back control of their own country. Yeah, and start deporting illegal aliens. I was reading today with my team, one illegal who is still in London was convicted of violently raping a woman, but they will not deport this person. They will not send this person home. The illegal alien issue there is exactly what it is here, but Donald Trump is deporting illegal aliens for obvious reasons. Steve, the president just landed there today. We will see him over the next couple of days in England. Do you expect this to come up at all, what we've seen there, these protests? Look, the president has a job to do, and he can be much more polite about the appalling, useless, incompetent socialist government that Niall accurately characterized. And he'll wanna be focusing, as he always does, on what he can do in America's interests. And so I don't suppose he'll be wanting to make life difficult for or embarrass his host. He'll want it to go smoothly. He loves the royal family, of course, so I think that's gonna be dominant. But of course, we know where he stands on the issues because he's been delivering it for us here in America. And you've got a lot of people in England saying, my goodness, if only we had someone like Trump in power there, and that's why Nigel Farage is doing so well. Yeah, just quickly, I wanna play a soundbite. Elon Musk was part of this on Saturday as well. Take a look. You see how much violence there is on the left with our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week, and people on the left celebrating it openly. The left is the party of murder. He's right, Niall, about 20 seconds. So if we went from Joe Biden to Kamala, that would be like what happened in Great Britain. You went from Rishi Sunak to Keir Starmer, who has described himself as a socialist, and that's what they've got over there in London right now, is socialism. Do you think that Nigel Farage actually becomes the next prime minister? I know you said you do. I think we are very likely to see Nigel Farage as the next prime minister of the United Kingdom. And I think that we are seeing the winds of change blowing across Britain, but also across Europe as well. And for the American people, they've managed to avoid a huge nightmare with Kamala Harris. She would have been absolutely catastrophic for the United States, just as Keir Starmer is a tragedy, frankly, for Britain today. His leadership is an absolute tragedy today. So the American people avoided the fate that the British people face right now. Absolutely. Gentlemen, appreciate you both being on. We'll have you both back. Steve Hilton, Niall, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Great to be with you. Thank you very much.

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