Rabbi Steven Burg and William A. Jacobson join to discuss Tucker Carlson's interview with far-right firebrand Nick Fuentes.

A Newsmax panel discussed the backlash following Tucker Carlson's interview with Nick Fuentes, a figure widely associated with anti-Semitic views. Rabbi Steven Berg and Professor William A. Jacobson expressed deep concern over the mainstreaming of anti-Semitism on the political right, particularly through high-profile media platforms.

The discussion highlighted calls from Republican leaders, such as Senator Ted Cruz and Ambassador Mike Huckabee, for stronger condemnation of anti-Semitic rhetoric. Panelists argued that providing a platform to figures like Fuentes risks normalizing hate speech and urged the Republican Party to take a more unified stand against anti-Semitism.

Carlson-Fuentes interview sparks fury

Joining us to discuss, we're joined today by William A. Jacobson, professor at Cornell Law School and founder of EqualProtect.org. Also joining us is Rabbi Steven Berg, CEO of AISH Global. Welcome to you both. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. Rabbi Berg, I want to start with you, your thoughts on all of this that we just laid out. It's a disaster. I'm speaking as a Jew, you know, we're watching the Mamdani election. We're all terrified what's going on in New York. And the next thing we know, we have found a lot of solace in the Republican Party on the right. And what Tucker has done, and frankly, this was just the apex. I mean, we've been watching Mother Agapia, we've been anti-Semite after anti-Semite after anti-Semite coming on his program. And what he's doing is, while he's not saying it, he's giving them the ability to say these things. It's like pouring gasoline on and just letting them throw the match. And episode after episode has been demonizing the Jews, demonizing Israel. And we don't know where to find ourselves. For two years, the Jews of New York have said, how are the Jews in Israel now? The Jews of Israel worried about us in America. We don't know where to go. And I can't begin to tell you how disappointing it was to see the Heritage Foundation, a place that really has stood by Israel and the Jewish people for a long time, to basically come out and say, yeah, if someone thinks Hitler is a good guy and the Jews should be thrown out of America or killed, we got to give them a platform. That's insane. You know, William, the thing is, is that people like Zoran, Mom, Donnie and others with their anti-Semitism, that's expected, condemned, but expected from those sources. I think it's taking people by surprise. Someone like Tucker Carlson, who had a huge following and still has a huge following, coming out with some extremely questionable and blatant response that many people are calling anti-Semitic. And they didn't expect it from people like Tucker Carlson, who is a technically, I don't know if he embraces the title, he's an influencer. What say you? Well, he has been a malevolent force really since October 7th. October 7th seems to have been interpreted by a lot of people, that's the massacre of 1200 Israelis, as a permission slip to let their true feelings show. I think what we're seeing is the true Tucker unrestrained coming out. And he, for two years, has been platforming Nazi historical revisionists. He's been platforming people who claim that the Jews are responsible for the decline of Christianity in the Muslim world. He has time after time platformed these people and he nods along. So he has normalized anti-Semitism in the Republican Party. It's not a majority view. It's not even, I think, statistically a large position, but there is an influential group who are trying to destroy the MAGA movement, who hate Donald Trump because they think he's too pro-Israel and he's got too close to Jews. This is really a malicious thing. And Tucker Carlson is a major problem. And I wish President Trump, who's been great on so many things, would speak out about it because Tucker is destroying everything President Trump has achieved because he's going to end up putting a Democrat back in the White House. Right. And luckily, unlike the Democrats, though, who embrace people like Zoran Mamdani, we are seeing Republican leaders condemn Tucker Carlson. And I think that's an important distinction. Rather than embracing them by not coming out like Chuck Schumer against Zoran, saying nothing. I mean, that in and of itself is condoning the behavior. But in response, here is Senator Ted Cruz speaking out against anti-Semitism at the Republican Jewish Convention this weekend. But unfortunately, it's not limited to the left. And everyone here knows we're seeing more and more anti-Semitism rising on the right. In the last six months, I've seen more anti-Semitism on the right than I have in my entire life. This is a poison. And I believe we are facing an existential crisis in our party and in our country. Yeah, Rabbi Berg, your reaction. Ted is amazing. Ted Cruz is really one of the great friends that we have in the Jewish people in Israel. But we're nervous. We're seeing it out there. And like I said, I think that watershed moment of the Heritage Foundation coming out and saying, Nick Fuentes was okay. I may not agree with him, but it's okay to showcase him. We want to see more outrage. We want to see more people calling Tucker Carlson out. We want to see that we have a place there. And it's really hard that it takes something like this for people to get up the Republican Jewish Convention and talk about equal rights for Jews. We just want to be normal citizens. We want to support America and Israel and the relationship and all these different pieces. We're loyal Americans. And what I expect to see from the Republican Party is not just Ted Cruz and some of the people that have always stood up for us. We want to see it shoulder to shoulder. And Tucker Carlson has to be taken out behind the woodshed or whatever you want to call it. And basically told them, you need to stop putting anti-Semites on your program and giving rise to Hitler and Nazism. We're just coming off the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. And here we are now where it's become mainstream. We need to see more voices in the conservative world and the Republican Party, not just a handful, who are speaking out very forcefully because we want to be there. We want to be with the conservatives, but we have to have a home that we're comfortable in. Well, actually, Ambassador Huckabee thinks the same way. He's wondering this morning why Carlson or anyone would actually give Fuentes a platform. Here's what Ambassador Huckabee posted. Giving a platform to and getting advice about Christianity from Fuentes is like asking Hannibal Lecter for recipes. Watching the cringeworthy interview was like watching springtime for Hitler from producers, but played for serious dialogue instead of for comedy perversion. I think Ambassador Huckabee said it correct. People are actually trying to find that balance between free speech and people like Fuentes, but you got to call it for exactly what it is, because action speaks louder than words. Platforming individuals, if they want to speak and spew hatred on whatever platform they have, that's one thing. But to actually invite it on your platform and actually become married to them in terms of what that actually conveys to the American public, you also become an accomplice. What say you, William? Yeah, well, notice who Tucker has gone after viciously, Senator Ted Cruz. Tucker claimed that Ted Cruz was working for a foreign government, namely Israel. Tucker has said he hates Christian Zionists more than anybody in the world, and he has specifically named Ambassador Mike Huckabee. So Tucker is a malevolent force that must be addressed. He's entitled to spew his hatred, but we're entitled to object to it, and we're entitled to call him out for it, and we don't have to invite him into our house. He's got a huge platform. He runs to Qatar, he runs to Russia, he runs all these places and gets access to leaders. We don't have to have him ruling our party. And if it turns out that he has that influence, it's going to be the destruction of everything Donald Trump has accomplished, because it's going to put a Democrat back in the White House. Right. We don't need to go backward. We need to go forward with vision, love, and common sense. Thank you, William and Rabbi Stephen. We appreciate your thoughts and advocacy. Thank you. God bless.

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