Matt Lieberman and Anthony D’Esposito join to discuss the state of the Democratic Party, Sen. Lisa Murkowski considering switching parties, and more.

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In a panel discussion, Matt Lieberman and Anthony D’Esposito examined the challenges facing the Democratic Party, including difficulties with messaging, internal divisions, and generational tensions within party leadership. The conversation also touched on broader political issues, such as immigration, anti-Semitism on college campuses, and the party's focus on former President Donald Trump.

The panel further discussed Senator Lisa Murkowski's openness to caucusing with Democrats, noting her independent political brand and the potential implications for her constituents in Alaska. The conversation concluded with criticism of House Democrats' efforts to commemorate January 6th, contrasting it with Republican priorities on crime and border security.

Democrats in disarray

bring in our panel, Matt Lieberman, publisher, The Lieberman Files on Substack, former Democratic U.S. Senate candidate from Georgia. It's good to see you, Matt, and also Anthony Desposito, nominee right now for the Inspector General of the Labor Department, of course, also a former Republican congressman from New York. She doing herself any favors? She puts out those TikTok videos. I mean, the Democrats obviously struggling with money, struggling with messages. Matt, I'll start with you. Obviously, they didn't go with her. Would have been pretty entertaining, I think, if they had. Yeah, well, my first thought is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Apparently, that's a political discourse now, but I mean, look, there seems to be a trend. Actually, New York, one of the congressmen here, Jerry Nadler, should be the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee as seniority, but as Democrats considered him too senior. Seniority was beyond useful at a certain point. Look, I think both parties really are sort of trying to figure out, their older members, maybe they think are old and stale, but the younger ones, maybe are a little bit loud and scary sometimes. And I'm not sure repackaging, let's call it the same jar of peanut butter, is the answer. And whether it's Garcia or Jasmine Crockett or on the Republican side, some of the more, I would say virulent MAGA folks, I don't think that's what most Americans are looking for, but the parties are trying to, they're trying what they can do to appear more palatable to the American public without necessarily changing anything, I think. Well, there are serious issues happening here and obviously around the world. I broke, we had the breaking news off the top of the show about the Iranians, nationals here illegally, that were picked up across our country, 11 of them. Anthony, I remember you were on the steps of Columbia University with the anti-Semitism. I mean, we're seeing release from his immigration detention facility now, just back at it, Mahmoud Khalil. It seems the left likes these people and prompts them up as heroes. They're not American, they're anti-American, they're anti-Jew. And yet they think this is a blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada comment to make on TikTok. How do you think anyone takes any faith in what the Democrats are saying now? Because they seem like they're not even happy about a ceasefire, some of them. No, because they just don't know what to talk about. And, you know, if you rewind back to just a minute ago when we're talking about the Committee on Oversight, I mean, their mission is to ensure efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of all of the federal government and its agencies. But if you spoke to Congressman Garcia, the only focus that they have is to beat up on Donald Trump. That is their only focus. And when it comes to Columbia University, when it comes to the anti-Semitism, when it comes to the fact that nearly 15 million people were let across the southern border when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were in leadership, I mean, those people that came across, some of them are on our known terror watch list, and now we have to be concerned about them here. But even those ones that we know are rooting on terrorists, are rooting on Hamas, who are saying that death to Israel, death to the United States of America, we are funding these colleges, and we have Democrats who are, like you said, not only rooting them on, but encouraging them and enabling them. I mean, Columbia just proved that Democrats and their so-called accountability is an absolute joke. All right, well, Lisa Murkowski, the Republican senator from Alaska, says she's open to caucusing with Democrats, may not become a Democrat though, because, well, she already kind of votes like them anyway. Here's what she said on a podcast. I'll get your reaction on the flip side, Matt. Is there a world in which, by becoming unaligned or an independent, you could help Alaskans that you'd consider it? There may be that possibility. Would Democrats want her, Matt? Well, you know, she pulled off a remarkable political feat in, I believe, her last election. She won as a write-in, not even as a third-party candidate, but people actually had to write her name in. She's known in Alaska, you know, I think what that questioner was asking her about was whether she would, before her next election, before her next election, if she deemed it advantageous to her or her state, would she switch allegiances and caucus with the Democrats somehow because she got a better deal or something like that? I think that's the kind of thing, her political brand, I think, is strong enough at home. I think she needs to be careful about something like that because that can look awfully opportunistic. And I think she'd want to make sure that the people of Alaska didn't think she was just pulling some sort of inside beltway fastball. All right, I just have 30 seconds, but I want to kick this over to you, Anthony. So House Democrats, same old, same old. They want to push January 6th. They have this plaque. They actually want it to be installed as part of the 2026 spending bill. It's Raskin, Joe Morrell, Morelli, Jim McGovern, and they want it up in the House. I don't know if you know about this. They're really mad it's been collecting dust. Yeah, it's not shocking. While Donald Trump and Republicans are trying to clean up the mess and make crime better, fight inflation, and correct the border chaos, I mean, Democrats are literally busy hanging replica January 6th plaques, turning political theater into Walmart. They don't want accountability. They just want distraction, and they want to try to focus as much as they can on Donald Trump because they know that he's doing the right thing for America, so they need to distract everybody else. For America and for the world, shall we say, as this ceasefire right now is holding at this hour. Historic days lie ahead. Matt Lieberman, Anthony Desposito, great to see you both. Thanks, guys. And folks, when we come back, we'll talk about a major legal victory.

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